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Post by Artorias on Feb 24, 2016 2:57:37 GMT
My understanding is that Limbo is supposed to be a place that is 'less moderated', and an alternative to main chat for those that wish to..well, debase each other, among other things. Since people wish to separate, why not make it that you can only see one or the other at any given time?
There is no need for someone to be able to see main chat, and just respond how they wish in Limbo especially if they know the other person is probably watching Limbo. It defeats the purpose, really. It's just allowing people to curse at each other in a different color, while still staying apart of the conversation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 3:03:49 GMT
You actually turn of either of the chats if you'd like. You're not forced to see/be in either.
Edit: I realize I misread. I don't think this is necessary. Someone could just switch back and forth at their will. The other person doesn't have to watch limbo or could ignore whoever. If it's serious/harassment, mods will step in.
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Post by gandor on Feb 24, 2016 3:19:09 GMT
Forcing people to choose one over the other doesn't solve any of the actual problems with chat, imo.
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Post by Artorias on Feb 24, 2016 23:33:29 GMT
What then, are the problems with chat, Gandor? The 'problem' seems to me, that it is people don't want to 'clean it up' for main chat, so Limbo was created as a sort of less moderated hang out. Why should people be able to participate in both? The people who wanted Limbo can have Limbo, and the people who don't mind main can have main. Of course, for moderators, they can see both (as things do need to be moderated obviously).
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Post by gandor on Feb 25, 2016 0:41:23 GMT
Forcing people to choose would just divide the community. I mean it's already sorta having that affect anyway, but if you make it so you CAN'T freely switch that's...I dunno that doesn't seem like a good idea to me lol.
The real problem with chat is that people don't know how to lighten the fuck up. I much prefer limited moderation because you simply can NOT satisfy everyone, someone will ALWAYS complain and nitpick every single little thing, people will keep pushing boundaries.
If everyone crying for better mods became a mod themselves, they'd quickly learn how absolutely dumb their line of thinking is. There's no secret 'sweet spot' for moderating a chat, people just love being dicks on the internet and this won't change. I just slap people on the wrist with a 10 minute timeout, but people cry "mod abuse!" even at that. It's downright comical!
I'm content with leaving shit as it is and letting people vent freely, though. It's interesting to see people making threads about it and trying to come up with solutions. I've not seen anything great though, just the usual "so-and-so sucks" and "so-and-so should be a mod" or whatever. A popularity contest is the absolute worst way to solve anything, but whatever let the people have fun I guess!
I should also point out that someone being a staff member now doesn't mean they will be forever, and that other people will get a chance to try things out for themselves if Vysn feels they deserve a shot. If you already applied, you needn't apply again. You can edit your thread with updated info though, if you like. Maybe even bump it? Heck, you can even message Vysn if you're really upset about something and need it addressed privately.
Sometimes the best cure for any of this is to step back, remember what you're actually doing: Playing a text-based online video game. This isn't worth becoming emotional about; each and every one of you have a million things in your life that are more valuable than this nonsense.
I like the game, the creator, and even some of the people that play it, so I'll be here a long time. Try to be friendly, you'll find you can enjoy the game a lot more with a happy outlook!
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Post by Artorias on Feb 25, 2016 2:44:08 GMT
I feel like you misunderstood me. You can freely switch between the two, no choice is permanent. You just don't get to participate in both chats at the same time. Why should you, if you are choosing to separate anyways, for 'hate speech' or whatever they'd like to call it.
And personally, I'm someone that does love to talk shit, and if I ever get more active, would probably have to stay in Limbo or suffer mutes. But I see no reason that a person should be able to listen and respond in both at the same time. May as well just allow them to speak freely in main.
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Post by Artorias on Feb 26, 2016 11:50:53 GMT
It is supposed to be a separatist chat, right? I don't see why people would get to enjoy the benefits of both. It makes no sense, considering the spirit of limbo seems to be that it is just a less moderated main chat. Limbo is an official chat provided by the game, right? like an official channel? People could've went and made a channel just for this. There is seemingly no mention of what limbo is for, either, before you join it, which could make newcomers immediately turned off of the game once they go in, because it is an official channel.
This just doesn't make sense, you see? Why not just have a less moderated main chat? Or, cut the two apart if they really are supposed to be different.
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Post by callmejord on Feb 26, 2016 15:47:46 GMT
What it ultimately comes down to is the fact that you personally do not like the things we say in Limbo. As Wings said, a number of the "Denizens" have completely turned off Main as it has no appeal to them. All individuals, yourself included, are more than welcome to shut off Limbo if it is found offensive.
If it does bother you, I would actually encourage that option. We may not all get along as a community at times, but we have have one desire in the game: enjoyment. If you or anyone else feels that any chat/player takes away from your enjoyment.. Well that's why the game is setup to be customized in the sense of what you have to read. You can choose to mute and chat or player so that you yourself may have as much fun as possible.
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Post by Vysn on Feb 26, 2016 18:52:47 GMT
It's not supposed to be a separatist chat. Main is supposed to be, well, the main chat, and limbo is supposed to be there if you want to bitch about something and/or just can't resist being super offensive.
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Post by Artorias on Feb 28, 2016 0:04:11 GMT
I barely even chat, so, no, it's not that I don't like things said in Limbo. I apparently just misunderstood the spirit of Limbo.
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Post by Artorias on Mar 4, 2016 11:27:35 GMT
Remember that time I offered an idea to kill of Limbo and no one liked it? Pepperidge farm remembers.
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Post by gandor on Mar 4, 2016 11:40:41 GMT
It's not gone/dead.
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Post by potato on Mar 4, 2016 11:43:43 GMT
Yeah...lots of people are still using it, it's just not moderated anymore. If you don't know how to get there it's /join Limbo
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Post by artifact on Mar 5, 2016 5:26:14 GMT
I'm under the impression the main purpose of limbo is to discuss polarizing topics. Whenever I have been in there we had dropped the "you're a fag" facade and engaged in lengthy, articulate conversations. Some of the points we make might be "offensive", so we use Limbo because of that.
The people in Limbo see /main as being used for talking about gameplay (besides requesting help or making trades) and asking/implying people buy more boost time. Limbo may have it's own form of cancer (summerfags join and try and act like oldfags), but it's not filled with aforementioned form (boost begging) so rampant in main.
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Post by gandor on Mar 5, 2016 7:25:59 GMT
Limbo is totally free now, so it will completely rely on people making use of the /ignore function; mods will no longer interfere with anything that goes on there. I pretty much agree with that assessment though, but I don't beg for boosts I always offer something in return  |
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