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Post by valanxia on Feb 19, 2016 2:41:43 GMT
So i have stated in the main chat of the game that i did not agree with the terms of being demoted for being inactive for 2 weeks.
I received all kinds of hate so i said id bring it to the forums.
Issue: now my issue is that I founded my clan and i wish to stay leader, there can be all kinds of cases where i might have to leave and am unable to play for 2 weeks+.
ive already had to leave the game for a week and a half due to studies and sports, and i may have to leave for 2 weeks+ in the future, my clan already know this and as such they asked for my second in command to have more power while im away.
I don't think the owner/leader of a clan should be removed from there post as owner for inactivity of 2 weeks+.
Various ways to change: if an owner happens to be afk for a vast amount of time i think obviously the second in command should get the power of owner without taking the owners rank away within the clan. The second in command can do all things in the clan except kick the owner or demote the owner.
There is the option of just removing the update altogether.
Or there is the option of the owner actually trusting their second in command to have most of the same abilities as the owner, promoting/demoting, inviting, kicking, buying buildings. If people actually did that then we wouldn't have this problem altogether
My conclusion to this is that i would like this update changed or removed and i would rather not be demoted/kicked from my own clan that myself and my members have built up.
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Post by gandor on Feb 19, 2016 2:45:53 GMT
Clan ownership, much like a ball, can be tossed freely and safely between clan members. When you become active again, your co-leader can simply return clan ownership to you. It is common courtesy to pass leadership to another member if you know you are going to be inactive for lengthy periods of time.
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Post by lareida on Feb 19, 2016 2:46:26 GMT
If you wish to still have your power, and you know you are going to be inactive for two weeks:
Switch powers with the co-leader.
The ONLY thing you won't be able to do for those two weeks would be the one to show up as the owner. If you like your rank title, swap the rank titles temporarily. If you are gone for two or more weeks and your clan wishes to perform actions while you are away, they can't move forward. You would hold them back.
I see no point in implementing a new system or changing anything about it. It sounds like an internal thing you should work out with your clan. It is nothing to change the system for.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 19, 2016 2:47:10 GMT
2 weeks is a long time to not even be able to pop in for 5 seconds... it's a semi-idle game. Unless you're in the Peace Corps or something there's really no reason to not be able to get to a, internet-accessible computer for a second in 2 weeks. I don't see any problem.
Besides, worst case scenario, you get auto-kicked, you come back, your clannie welcome you back with open arms... all is well.
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Post by valanxia on Feb 19, 2016 2:50:32 GMT
My co-leader has all the powers i have so what im saying is why should i get removed from my position when he already has my power
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Post by vrillx on Feb 19, 2016 2:50:38 GMT
Dont want to be mean but the fact that you think ...you're members will kick you it's kinda "scary" . Anyway from what i gathered so far, to build a strong clan requires alot of help from all its members... would it be fair to them if a leader just gets bored one day decides to quit thus leaving all members with no possibility to continue their hard work ? My suggestion to you ..if you know you gonna be gone for weeks in a row ...best to assign leadership to someone else within the clan that you trust and when you get back you can be leader again.
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Post by gandor on Feb 19, 2016 2:54:30 GMT
Like I previously stated, your leadership can be restored to you at any time by your co-leader. You aren't actually 'losing' anything. It's to protect clans from being abandoned completely and left to die, which can happen if no one is around and active with the rank-changing power.
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Post by lareida on Feb 19, 2016 2:55:48 GMT
My co-leader has all the powers i have so what im saying is why should i get removed from my position when he already has my power Position means A LOT for people who may want to join or discuss joining while you are gone. People look for clans and usually ask the leader questions. Even if you give power, the idea of being a leader is that you should be there and carry the weight. If you really want people to know it's your clan, make your title "Original Overlord" or "Founder of Overlord" or something like that. What reason is there to stay if you aren't there? You can get it back later. |
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Post by valanxia on Feb 19, 2016 3:15:21 GMT
Dont want to be mean but the fact that you think ...you're members will kick you it's kinda "scary" . lets be honest no one will ever no what someone on the other side of a computer screen will do, its not a lack of trust it the fact i want to keep my position. also people keep saying u can just pop on for 5 seconds, sometimes its not as easy as that, or if u go inactive ur a bad leader my clan is built on the friendship of my members. the fact that most of u probably didn't even make the clan ur in, u probably wouldn't understand why i want to keep my position. i also didn't make this thread so people can dig at me or so this could be an argument i made this thread because i personally want to keep my status no matter the means. Also i would kindly ask if people didn't just come to this thread to hate. |
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Post by lareida on Feb 19, 2016 3:25:02 GMT
Dont want to be mean but the fact that you think ...you're members will kick you it's kinda "scary" . lets be honest no one will ever no what someone on the other side of a computer screen will do, its not a lack of trust it the fact i want to keep my position. also people keep saying u can just pop on for 5 seconds, sometimes its not as easy as that, or if u go inactive ur a bad leader my clan is built on the friendship of my members. the fact that most of u probably didn't even make the clan ur in, u probably wouldn't understand why i want to keep my position. i also didn't make this thread so people can dig at me or so this could be an argument i made this thread because i personally want to keep my status no matter the means. Also i would kindly ask if people didn't just come to this thread to hate. What you need to understand is that it needs to be a blanket rule so if another clan has someone go inactive without warning that the clan isn't screwed over. If everyone is a friend in your clan, then why is there a problem? You do not lose your clan leadership forever. I'm sorry that you don't like it, but imagine if you were in a clan with people you decided to join with for the hell of it, and then the leader left and you couldn't progress? With the rule you are suggesting, it can't be designed specifically for your clan. Imagine if the leader set it so they never lost their leadership, but they never set powers to a coleader. Do you see how much this could ruin a clan? I personally think having a rule like this is worth it, and if you have a leadership title you lose after being gone for more than two weeks, are you going to miss it while you are gone? You can ask for it back. I'm not here to hate, I'm here to point this out in the best way I can. Just because I didn't make the clan I'm in doesn't mean I don't understand. |
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Post by vrillx on Feb 19, 2016 3:28:53 GMT
Dont want to be mean but the fact that you think ...you're members will kick you it's kinda "scary" . the fact that most of u probably didn't even make the clan ur in, u probably wouldn't understand why i want to keep my position. i also didn't make this thread so people can dig at me or so this could be an argument i made this thread because i personally want to keep my status no matter the means. Also i would kindly ask if people didn't just come to this thread to hate. Don't take it personally..its a socially related "thing", at least for me...whenever i see a leader trying to change the rules to keep his power...at the expense of the "little" guys ...let's just say the neurons light up like a christmas tree, anyway i think as long as we keep it decent everyone should be entitled to his opinion...that's what a forum is about, people sharing, exchanging thoughts on a matter. Then again i think everyone would want to be leader of a clan where they only play once every 2 -3 weeks, the little guys do all the work.... and the "missing" leader enjoys the recognition...hmm or not. |
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Post by valanxia on Feb 19, 2016 3:31:52 GMT
i understand we need blanket rules but i personally want some sort of resolve so that everyone is happy and that it is interchangeable, i feel that what ur saying is right but i feel like the leader should make the call on whether or not he loses his leadership because its his clan that he founded at the end of the day, if the players of the clan dont like the leaders decision they can leave and find a new clan or make their own clan where they can make there own rules for there clan, i believe there should be an option button for the new update
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Post by gandor on Feb 19, 2016 3:38:43 GMT
The issue is that "owner" is not an actual title that has any sort of weight here and can and should be handed off as necessary. You can become the owner again without issue and if your clan is truly about friendship then no one will ever care.
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Post by spyrothedrag on Feb 19, 2016 4:17:57 GMT
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Post by gandor on Feb 19, 2016 5:23:03 GMT
Well that works!
Basically it's all just a misunderstanding. You aren't actually LOSING leadership, because it's NOT a permanent thing. It is free to pass around like potato salad.
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